Disney Investors Search for Clarity on Elusive Streaming Profits

(Bloomberg) — When Walt Disney Co. reports earnings after Wednesday’s close, top of mind for investors is what clarity the company can offer on when its streaming business will deliver profits.

The Burbank, California-based firm said in its last report that it expects its combined streaming business to reach profitability in the fourth quarter of 2024, but warned that “progress may not look linear from quarter to quarter.”

Analysts covering the company expect its direct-to-consumer business to bring in $5.5 billion in revenue in the first quarter, and estimate an operating loss of about $391 million. While that’s a narrower decline than the $420 million the segment shed in the fourth quarter, it’s far from competitor Netflix Inc., which is the only streamer that’s been able to turn a profit.

“Things are getting less bad, and we’re getting more clarity finally, one of them being on the streaming side,” said David Wagner, portfolio manager at Aptus Capital Advisors LLC. “We’re going to see how forgiving the market tape is for a turnaround story.”

Disney shares are down 0.4% as of 1:38 p.m. in New York trading after falling as much as 2.7% earlier in the day.

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Pressure is on for Disney to show that it’s making progress in a turnaround that includes a profitable streaming segment and cost-cutting. Alongside revival efforts, the company is facing activist pressure from investors including Blackwells Capital and Trian Fund Management LP’s Nelson Peltz. The stock has gained so far this year — it’s up about 9% — but still lags Netflix, which has advanced 16%.

“Any commentary about reaching profitability earlier than 4Q24 will be a positive catalyst,” Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Geetha Ranganathan wrote in a note.

Investors will also be looking for updates on other parts of Disney’s business, such as linear networks including ESPN, theme parks and its movie studio. The company, alongside Fox Corp. and Warner Bros. Discovery, announced Tuesday after market close that they would join forces to launch a sports streaming service, one-third owned by each company.

Though bulls are hopeful that the stock’s more than 20% run from an October trough has legs, it’s still beaten-down from a 2021 high near $202 per share. Disney trades at about 21 times forward earnings, a slight premium to the S&P 500 Index at 20 times.

“It is a value stock, so the question is, is it a value trap or is this a great opportunity?” said Rhys Williams, portfolio manager at Spouting Rock Asset Management LLC. He added that the gap between Disney and Netflix, seen as the leader in streaming, has been an issue for convincing investors to jump back into the stock.

In its last earnings release, Netflix reported its best subscriber growth since the pandemic, signaling that its content and new advertising-supported subscription helped draw consumers amid a password crackdown.

“If they can have something close directionally like Netflix’s results, that would be great for Disney. But, I think there’s some skepticism that they’re going to be able to do that,” Williams said. Analysts are expecting that Disney subscribers will total 151.2 million in the quarter, showing sequential growth.

Overall, analysts expect Disney to report nearly $24 billion in revenue, a 1% increase from the same quarter a year ago, and $1.01 in adjusted earnings per share.

Also in focus is Disney’s Chief Financial Officer, Hugh Johnston, who joined the company in November. The earnings release will be his first as CFO.

“We will be listening for any key messages regarding his key priorities,” Citigroup Global Markets Inc. analysts led by Jason Bazinet wrote in a note dated Feb. 1. “We expect the focus will continue to be on right sizing costs and driving towards streaming profitability.”

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